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jefejefejefePM
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Unreal Tournament FOUR Announced
May 08, 2014 10:49 PM
Jefe Co-Owner - Joined: Jul 05, 2010
Posts: 420
And it is not what I expected.




To sum up some of the main points:

*The game will be developed with input from the community.
*The game will be free, but the editor will not. And not "free-to-play" like an iphone game with in-app purchases and paywalls.
*However, community-made mods can be sold or simply distributed on a "marketplace."
*Epic gets a cut from anything sold on the marketplace, of course.
*The editor will be subscription-based
*Will be open source, and they have even setup a github
*Will be for PC/Mac/Linux, not consoles

It's almost like Epic plans to do the game engine, basic stuff like game modes and a few maps, but let the community do a lot of the work. I can't say that's terrible. One thing I really don't like is that modders will pay $20/month for access to dev tools. I think that might change later on, but it is BS for people who dabble one or two weekends a month. I'd much rather pay an up-front price similar to the cost of a game ($40-60) that would give me access forever.

I'm also on the fence about the marketplace. It will make it easy for people doing large scale mods, or smaller stuff like maps to release their stuff, but the ability to monetize it is a bit weird. And what exactly can, or will be sold? Total conversions? Maps? Characters? Game modes? And lets say you put something you bought on a server...How would that work? Would people be able to play a for-sale map or mutator or what? Wouldn't that decrease the number of people playing those mods?

If the marketplace is used primarily for distribution of free content, that's fine. I've been playing a bit of civilization 5 on steam, and they have a nice setup for mods: You can "subscribe" to various mods and they will automatically update for you whenever the modder changes it. So that makes it a lot easier to get content out there... but Civ5 is a single player game. A mostly multiplayer game like UT is about servers. How would the marketplace work with them?

But this is just the announcement. I'll be following this on the new UT forum to see how this pans out.
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dc_demonslayerPM
#2
May 09, 2014 12:39 PM
<DC>DEMONSLAYER Co-Owner - Joined: Apr 05, 2009
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This is what Jefe is talking about.

https://www.unrealengine.com/blog/welcome-to-unreal-engine-4

And a visual of a death map

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=unreal+tournament+4&qpvt=unreal+tournament+4&FORM=ASMMVR#view=detail&mid=3976401F0CACCC20B5253976401F0CACCC20B525
In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder, bloodshed. They produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love, 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."

Orson Welles
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jefejefejefePM
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May 09, 2014 2:25 PM
Jefe Co-Owner - Joined: Jul 05, 2010
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Unreal Engine 4 came out a while back, but they are actually starting work on a new UT this time.
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dragon7350PM
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May 10, 2014 9:10 PM
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Hi, I'm Dragon7350 and I have a virus dog GOMMIT. (No playing from me for a while :(:()

Saw UT4 on the PS4 demo gathering and it looked pretty neat. Yeah, it would be interesting to see how that marketplace works out with custom servers. If it DOES work out for the best, we should totally move DC to that . . . I'll buy :p.

But really, I'm kind of hesitant to consider this new UT game. What can top UT2004? I mean, seriously...

hollonPM
#5
May 11, 2014 12:13 AM
Hollon Admin - Joined: Sep 12, 2010
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dragon7350 wrote:
Hi, I'm Dragon7350 and I have a virus dog GOMMIT. (No playing from me for a while :(:()

You gomhead!! If UT4 is pay-per-mod or whatever, then Dragon this is your moment to shine!! You can make $$$ (dollars dollars dollars).
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jefejefejefePM
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May 11, 2014 12:32 AM
Jefe Co-Owner - Joined: Jul 05, 2010
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That's what I'm afraid of. Modders seeing $$$.
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dc_demonslayerPM
#7
May 11, 2014 11:56 AM
<DC>DEMONSLAYER Co-Owner - Joined: Apr 05, 2009
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Lol. As much as you and Hollon have done for the server, all for the love of the game.................

Thoughts of the game. DC UT Invasion Server, DC UT 2004 Invasion Server, DC UT3 Invasion Server, and DC UT4 Invasion Server. Snicker....................
In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder, bloodshed. They produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love, 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."

Orson Welles
jefejefejefePM
#8
May 11, 2014 2:50 PM
Jefe Co-Owner - Joined: Jul 05, 2010
Posts: 420
Too much work!

But UT4 DC might happen if things turn out well. And we all get PC upgrades.
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dc_demonslayerPM
#9
May 11, 2014 3:35 PM
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It is interesting after watching the video of the UT4 trailer.

UT/UT3/UT4 all feature the original weapons from Unreal/Unreal Gold. UT2004 is the only tournament game that has the different weapons (not talking about the magical properties).
In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder, bloodshed. They produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love, 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."

Orson Welles
jefejefejefePM
#10
May 12, 2014 9:07 AM
Jefe Co-Owner - Joined: Jul 05, 2010
Posts: 420
On sort of a whim, I decided to buy a new pc yesterday. (This one from Best Buy.)

So far, so good. Getting great performance in UT2004 of course, and tested some games that ran poorly on my old PC, like Deus Ex Human Revolution. Old one I could only run in 640x480 and still got crappy fps. Was able to run it with everything maxed at my monitor's native 1280x1024.

So I decided to try out the UE4 "Shooter Game" demo. Got around 10fps on the High Quality setting and a somewhat ok 25-30 fps on Low. And that's with the built-in graphics. So with a PSU (this only has a 350 watt ) and graphics card upgrade later on, I should be able to do well enough for UT4. Or I might take this one back and go with a different model. One thing I don't like is unlike most PCs nowadays, the case is a single piece that attaches with screws, and there is a warranty sticker you have to break if you open it up. Also it doesn't have an OEM Windows disc after being assured by the salesperson that it has one.

Here's a link to the Shooter Demo, it's a good test of whether you will be able to run UT4.

http://www.geeks3d.com/20140501/unreal-engine-4-tech-demos-pack-including-elemental-and-a-shooter-game-download/

Video:

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