I left apg because apg had so many freaking problems, there were no leaders at the time, you had no voice in the clan(I had to speak through bean to get issues heard), I got discriminated half the time for my age will I had better ideas than older members, and look where your clan is now in two pieces
waterwave I never sided with the enemy, "the truth" what truth, I knew about jinx about one month before marlin made his post if thats what your talking about, I always loved the members in your clan, you were awesome, but some members weren't and you will always remember the bad more than the good
marlin how the hell do you stand together as one when your in two pieces, I'd really like to know
on a lighter note were is wazza I would like to see what he says on this issue, and is the old apg vent in your hands or apgs

And from what I can see, You all left [APG] also.

We just left earlier. And Marlin, you have to learn who you can and can't win against in the world. If I was standing infront of you, you would be bloodied and broken, laying on the ground, begging men, leaking your life's essence all over my feet.

And I would think to myself, this is what humanity has produced? How pathetic.

Have fun on your servers. You won't hear from me again.

Man... everyone is Chuck Norris over the internets.

IRunBarterTown wrote:
Man... everyone is Chuck Norris over the internets.
LOL I agree Barter, this is ludicrous.

FNI, just stop trying, it will save you a few temper tantrums.

the in game server and vent server that used to be run in apgs name is now ours
we left a name
the group was the people who have left
qty i have never had any problems with you i played with you alot and u were a good guy
i have no use for hackers... you say u knew about jinx a long time before marlin and the rest of us?
why the hell would u side with him then? u are ok with hackers and liars like chaos?
personally i don't care who can kick who's ass
chaos ur a worthless piece of shit and always were
i hope we never do hear from your worthless ass
take a look here bud.... u say i'm not liked yet more people seem to absolutely despise u than u can name
i may not be a favorite on peoples list but oh well i don't really care
i don't know how many times we have to tell you that we have no use for you and hacking noobs so gtfo

I too have never had a problem with any of the clan members apg or hs.

Why didnt i tell people about jinx, because i knew he would just be kicked out of the clan without a chance to say anything, seen it before and will see it again im sure of.

Look what you did to jinx and fni after marlins post, he was immediately classified as a hacker same with the fni name, jinx never got to say his side, everything you had was from marlin half of it which was most was utter bullshit with no truth at all, that is why I never reported jinx. All the members that we told the true story agreed that what happened was wrong and should have been treated differently.

About a year ago i joined my first clan, I wont say there name(no not APG) but one semi-powerful member didnt like me cause I knifed him a lot(it was a snipe and knife clan), so he did a 1v1 game with me and recorded it, all he did in the game was hide, I used the commander scan, then resigned from commander so when I kill him I get the point, but since he was only hiding I would know where his position was the whole time even when there wassnt a commander scan, so I would just remember his spot then run over and knife or shoot him. Later he posted the video saying I hacked look at this video he always finds me and hes not using the uav or even being a commander, a higher up saw the post before be and took away all my forum permissions cept the one to view that thread so I could just watch them post bs about me, even members i had never played with said yes that guy was unnaturally good, how the hell do they know that i never played them.
that pissed me off so bad, if i could just post the whole issue would have been resolved, so I said if im ever a higher up in a clan i wont let that happen to any member, you should always be able to leave with at least one post on the issue, not just insta-banned.

Guys(wolf/chaos) seriously having a 'i have more friends than you war' is just a 'whos dick is bigger war' to the highest level, your both not 5 so why act like it

i'm not having a who has more friends war
simply pointing out i do have some
chaos is/was/will be a pos little bitch that needs smacking around
as for jinx i didn't know him that well
but from what i have seen he wrote code for someone
like i said that is worse than the noobcake hackers that use it
as far as i'm concerned he's responsible for everyone who uses the code he made to hack now
so he can goto hell period
i don't care why he did it
trying to justify cheating and being a shitbag who supports and furthers cheating is in the end just what i hate a cheater period

well chaos is leaving to the marines at the end of this college semester

lone, I too would consider a coder worst than a normal hacker, but what jinx did is barely worth the name coder and he also had a justification of his 'wrongs'. He wrote a hook, basically one line of code that does what its name says hooks a function in the game and did it to keep his house

The only thing I don't like about FNI is how everytime I hear the story it changes. First I heard that he was a hacker. Than I heard that he isn't a hacker. Than I heard that he did the hack for money. Than I heard that it wasn't a hack it was a code to keep his house. And than I heard that all of the above is false.... I kinda wanna call jinx and see if he will really tell me what happened.

I know I'm a bit late on commenting on this.

But sometimes you just have to take things for face value. Chaos was extending a hand of friendship. I didn't see any hidden agendas or anything hidden.

The best course of action in this case is to just say "Thanks." You don't have to take people up on their offers, but if they are nice about it, then be nice in return. That's not so difficult.

And similar to what Barter said... everyone on the internet can be a Keyboard Commando. So knock it off.

Arguing over the internet is like playing in the special olympics... whether you win or lose, you're still a retard.

So everyone just chill out, take what was said as a nice gesture, and leave it at that.

- Echo