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foibosPM
Mar 18, 2010 3:21 PM
Foibos Member - Joined: Sep 04, 2008
Posts: 551
Could you post the part of the log (without ID), where I can see that bot and Funny's nick? Well, who means that Captain doesn't deserve that ban?

Sorry Foibos,
I have to bug you again. I got a problem with Captain'04 (aka BountyHunter BrutalForce JohnnyB C4 mac Ronaldo CHINO...). I believe he's a botter of the smarter sort but I have only circumstancial evidence against him. Next to the suspicious name-switching he does wonders with certain weapons, namely Falcon and Goliath. In spec it looks like he always gets a centered hit without random deviation. He sucks a lot with other weapons, and there is the typical suspicous secondary minigun score.
Captain04 stats:
http://ut2004stats.epicgames.com/playerstats.php?player=2361373
In this game today he was shooting through the wall with lightning gun:
http://ut2004stats.epicgames.com/matchstats.php?match=48201850
I got no proof that he's cheating but maybe you can make him stick to one name so I can avoid him.
Thanks, Funny


Meanwhile he is taking on other people's names. He's teamkilling and tries to stalk me with his lightning gun bot. Just ruined another evening session. Please remove that guy forever.
Thanks, Funny
foibosPM
Mar 18, 2010 4:58 PM
Foibos Member - Joined: Sep 04, 2008
Posts: 551
Well, I see that FunnyName cheated. Captain's ban removed, I can't trust him.

[2010-03-12 21:51:53] - [INSECURE CLIENT] FunnyName [ - ] IP: - Security ID: 32 using v3369, security state: Secure
[2010-03-12 21:51:53] - Found disallowed file(s) 'D2LITEPlugin.u'

[2010-03-12 21:57:05] - [INSECURE CLIENT] FunnyName [ - ] IP: - Security ID: 38 using v3369, security state: PerformingMD5Checks
[2010-03-12 21:57:05] - modified file 'AntiTCC119Beta22' (../System/AntiTCC119Beta22.u)
[2010-03-12 21:57:05] - Full MD5/GUID [4da1e9b7bbf671ed23ae8f3d84fc9fde/00000000000000000000000000000000]
[2010-03-12 21:57:05] - Expected [4a6a0ec058e71da947e67c017c7854b9/BBEE9F924023E6B3FB299593E457951A]
Last edited by: foibos Mar 18, 2010 7:04 PM
crusha_k_roolPM
Mar 18, 2010 5:02 PM
[GSPB]Crusha Member - Joined: Oct 13, 2008
Posts: 926
Wow, surprising turn in this case. Sad to see but good to know that we caught another one.
foibosPM
Mar 18, 2010 6:44 PM
Foibos Member - Joined: Sep 04, 2008
Posts: 551
Another sad story.

[2010-03-04 11:41:18] - [INSECURE CLIENT] Komek_S.T._[ua]* [ - ] IP: - Security ID: 2 using v3369, security state: PerformingMD5Checks
[2010-03-04 11:41:18] - modified file 'AntiTCC119Beta22' (../System/AntiTCC119Beta22.u)
[2010-03-04 11:41:18] - Full MD5/GUID [4da1e9b7bbf671ed23ae8f3d84fc9fde/00000000000000000000000000000000]
[2010-03-04 11:41:18] - Expected [4a6a0ec058e71da947e67c017c7854b9/BBEE9F924023E6B3FB299593E457951A]

[2010-03-04 11:41:37] - [INSECURE CLIENT] Komek_S.T._[ua]* [ - ] IP: - Security ID: 2 using v3369, security state: Secure
[2010-03-04 11:41:37] - Found disallowed file(s) 'D2LITEPlugin.u'
foibosPM
Mar 18, 2010 7:06 PM
Foibos Member - Joined: Sep 04, 2008
Posts: 551
Ok, I've banned 43 guys after 2.5 months. Server's clear again, enjoy it.
laborheinzPM
Mar 18, 2010 7:33 PM
laborheinz Member - Joined: Jul 27, 2009
Posts: 14
oh u got quick again Foibos
I don't really doubt that Funny was right about Cap turning to be a nick-stealer because he once stole mine LOL. I simply was curious why he was banned and that's why I asked. But no reason for a ban imo, just kidding around. But team sabotaging shouldn't be his style, I know him for several years now and ok, he sometimes just goes crazy and isn't playing a "straight" match all the time. But ban him for this? Hummm... A kick or a warning should do. On CEONSS, I just had one single player suspecting him to cheat but no proof for this. Ok, this player is the most experienced one of all I know and his opinion shall count, but without proof? Not worth a ban I'd say. Observe and then decide...

Concerning FunnyName: I wasn't and I am not sure that he cheated. I just always wondered about his good aiming skills. I can't definitly interpret this AntiTCC message and wondered why it didn't disconnect him instantly if it detected a cheat.
For the record, here are the logs from CEONSS:

[2010-03-16 23:43:22] - [Connect] FunnyName [ * ] IP: * Security ID: 2
[2010-03-16 23:43:25] - [Init] FunnyName [ * ] IP: * Security ID: 2 using engine version 3369 on Windows with D3DRenderDevice
[2010-03-16 23:43:33] - [INSECURE CLIENT] FunnyName [ * ] IP: * Security ID: 2 using v3369, security state: PerformingMD5Checks
[2010-03-16 23:43:33] - modified file 'AntiTCC119Beta22' (../System/AntiTCC119Beta22.u)
[2010-03-16 23:43:33] - Full MD5/GUID [4da1e9b7bbf671ed23ae8f3d84fc9fde/00000000000000000000000000000000]
[2010-03-16 23:43:33] - Expected [4a6a0ec058e71da947e67c017c7854b9/BBEE9F924023E6B3FB299593E457951A]

If that means he (and Komek too) cheated, I surely will ban 'em on CEONSS, too.
Edit: Ban on CEONSS removed, too
Last edited by: laborheinz Apr 04, 2010 12:44 PM
crusha_k_roolPM
Mar 22, 2010 11:35 AM
[GSPB]Crusha Member - Joined: Oct 13, 2008
Posts: 926
This seems to get even more confusing if Owner states that there is a server somewhere who makes the players download the file:
http://forum.omnipotents.com/showthread.php?p=183393#post183393


So how can we distinguish the bad guys from those who accidentially got this. I guess we have no other choice than banning them first and only let them back if they can assure somehow that they did not intentionally cheat.

I will ask Wormbo to do something about this.
foibosPM
Mar 22, 2010 12:48 PM
Foibos Member - Joined: Sep 04, 2008
Posts: 551
Thanks for the info. Funny, owner, Komek and few more have been unbanned. Sorry for that imputation, but it's something new. Funny says that the bots probably came from Linke's That's hot servers, but it's just a suspicion.
Last edited by: foibos Mar 22, 2010 6:18 PM
thomasitoPM
Apr 15, 2010 1:32 PM
Thomas!to* Member - Joined: Jun 15, 2009
Posts: 221
I want to ask you to ban Mu_Fo_Ne... not even sure if it should be non-permanent.

reasons:

1) he keeps on insulting other players wish harsh words, not only me. i will take screens next time i see it but yesterday on tyrant i think u saw what i mean..i don't mean all this "nub"-talking... nah that's funny and we all do it...
no i am speaking about the very bad insults which are in german, calling others "fags" for no reason or mocking my profile picture for example... if others just knew what he says there - they would totally be offended. i am certain of this.

2) he keeps on camping for overpowered vehicles on most of the maps.
and i do not mean take them when they happen to spawn - he takes them, gets killed and waits at the respawn place the whole 30secs/90secs/whatever respawn time it is for the specific vehicle

just some examples (can be proven by stats)
- VALARNA: he EXCLUSIVELY uses the wasp, not letting other teammembers have even the chance to get it, even when they ask to
- OSR-TanksALot: Ion
- Chainsisle2 & Chainsisle-final: Manta
- THI-TripleSlap: Goliath
- Nevermore-TMU: Hurricane
- Minus-TMU: Omnitaur

yes he gets alot of points with those - but 9 out of 10 times he doesnt help his team AT ALL.

so it's not only his pure annoyance and obvious lack of intelligence - he wastes vital ressources for his team and doesn't even think about to let others have their "try" with it.




i know the opinions on him might differ that's why i proposed it here so it can be discussed.
7/~
crusha_k_roolPM
Apr 15, 2010 1:52 PM
[GSPB]Crusha Member - Joined: Oct 13, 2008
Posts: 926
Yeah, I always remembered MuFo in a bad way.


Another thing: I actually thought we got that behind us long time ago, but lately there are some players who switch to the winning team just before it ends. It's really annoying, that way there is even less a chance for comeback and it's just gitty. I think we should sanction such behavior so that they learn it again. -.-
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