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it looked just like any other normal day when the HiszY Servers went offline about four years ago and now here is why: ok, first of all let me start saying that I'm really disappointed with myself about how this turned out and apologize about it, sorry guys, I know I should have posted this long, long time ago and that such a delay was not acceptable, I know. unfortunately, believe it or not, write such a message was not easy and I believe that you guys after all the time we spent together deserved more than a meaningless message stating the obvious, that the servers went offline, you didn't need me to tell you that. what you deserved instead was the real thing and get to the point however, address the issue in such a manner will take me a time I didn't really have at that time and would raise questions I couldn't even answer myself at that moment. so, I basically just leave it there and quit, like I said, I know it wasn't the right thing to do, I should have face it, and I'm not proud about it but unfortunately that was what I finally did. then now I'll try to get you a picture of what happened with the HiszY thing. I'm going to try that this message doesn't get virtually endless (because it could definitively) then I'll start by putting here the several factors who took place in the issue, analyze them and then after that, elaborate a bit about the issue and end with and all around conclusion and if there's need to talk more, feel free to leave it in the comments or I can even edit this in the future. so, let's start with the factors now. the factors who took place in the issue were of various types, here are: 1) personal factors: let's see, I believe that my personal compromise with the project is totally out of question here, however what happens is that things just got out of hand. ok, let's be open here, I remember being here for something like from 10-11 in the morning to 2-3 in the night without barely stop to eat, 12+ hours working non-stop on this, you know, banning people, answering mails, admining the servers, improving the servers, just to name a couple of things, one day and the next and the next, weekends, holidays and everything and so on for more than a year and a half. that was something that totally couldn't continue like that so it wasn't that I changed it was that I had to change and I obviously end up doing it. then that was never my intention, when I started with this I just had the intention to build a cool and fun place with a couple of friends and spend a couple (or a couple of more but not 24/7) of hours maintaining it regularly and have fun learning and developing my skills, it just happened that with the time things turned like this. thus, with the time, I obviously started spending more and more time outside of this project and then less and less here. by the end I started pursing a soccer career and there my time for this got limited however even so and after all as you can see I always keep at least one eye on this  2) technical factors: at that time running Quake III Arena servers wasn't that easy, the Quake III Arena network was under heavy chain attacks nearly on a daily basis and although I had managed myself to deal with them it was a time consuming task. also the servers had very specific requirements, they just couldn't run everywhere and the public ones were already a bit outdated by the end, I just set them promptly at the beginning, initially they were supposed to be just transitional into the real thing, however it was about 3 years and such transition never really took place, they needed to be completely reworked from scratch. even myself got into technical issues, due to unfulfillment of specs by ati some of the parts I've got into my new computer didn't work as specced that plus a broken hard drive got me to lose quite a lot of time (months) and finally end up getting me out of a serious box to work the things out. I was just left with a micro laptop I've got in the event of a crisis scenario (luckily I had considered such a situation) and while I was able to do some admining from there it was clearly not enough for some serious admining. but the technical factors here wasn't just limited to the HiszY scope, at that time, the downtime of the servers at idsoftware and even of places like this, gametracker, was frequent and clearly above of what should be considered "normal" and few by few many of the things related with the project started to malfunction and/or simply disappear. those were also important factors who had an important impact in the quality of the service. 3) community factors: ok, let's be frank, it was a while since the community/scene was no longer how it used and should be, a fresh, cool and clean place for everybody. the ambient had turned heavy, turbulent and, generally speaking, unfriendly. I'm not talking about the alice in wonderland or life is pink world here, it's obvious that even in the own families, friendships and relationships in general there's arguments and conflicts so that's part of normal life (much more in a online FPS community). however one thing is that and another different story is that arguments and conflicts instead of take a part, and thus be a occasional thing, become the norm and the routine. let's face it here, it just reached a point that of the few times I had some time to join the servers, I didn't even enjoy playing on them anymore, it was no longer fun. it's a matter of fact that with the time, HiszY itself just had turned exactly like one of those sites for which I decided to build it in the first place. the lack of admining actions and follow up had clearly deteriorated a lot the scene, and I, as the head admin, assume full responsibility about it, unfortunately that's how things turned here. it wasn't that I just couldn't do anything, it's that it just didn't make sense to start kicking/banning most, at least most relevant, people, those who at the end were the sames who truly built the site. at the end there was no really rights and wrongs most situations and people was right and wrong, and wrong and right, at the same time. 4) staff factors: this was not always a issue, initially HiszY were created slowly and its staff consisted in something like 7 members at its peak, those were the times when things were going good. it happened that with the time some staff members who initially did good slowly just started to abuse their powers, use them just for their own benefit (instead of the whole community) or simply just do nothing about them at all, thus the staff population instead of grown started to shrink until a point where there was no more of a couple of staff members. finally the few staff members left and who were doing a good job, as expected, left because they saw them themselves overran with issues and the staff thing stopped to be cool and fun to become something more like a chore. then the staff population went down until it had no other members but me, its first member, and it never recovered again from that point. I know I should have rebuild a new staff team from there, unfortunately, that was just not possible, keep in mind that first, taking in consideration the players load, as explained, such a team should consist in at least 15 active members or so, and second that build, coach and monitor a new staff team is a dedicated (and highly time consuming) task in itself. so, at that moment I didn't really saw such a team, over the time, lot of people, either directly or indirectly, proposed for the place, unfortunately most of them were, for some reason or another, just not appropriate for the place. of all the people, I could only really tell of a couple of guys who could have got a staff place but unfortunately they didn't and about them I want to make a public apology here. I'm sorry guys, I know that was a bit unfair and that either way you should have got your chance to be part of the staff because you deserved it. unfortunately as pointed here, just a "couple" of guys wasn't really going to change anything and I just didn't want to hurt anyone (the staff members themselves, the own community, anyone) anymore with this, so I just end up taking it all by myself the best I could. also understand that building a new staff team wasn't very high in my priority list, unfortunately, as you can see now there was lot of other things to do. 5) economical factors: ok, let's speak the truth here, by the end of the project the financial crisis hit here and, while it never really became a problem to pay for the servers, what can I say, it was a relatively significant amount of money after all each month that it would be helpful if i could save it instead. I never really considered donations or any other kind of financial support model because after all, I wanted to keep this clean and ours and I didn't want to introduce differences between its players or have to rely and be restricted by the guidelines of a third party. the biggest issue here weren't the well known public servers, those were really tight set so they didn't cost me much, to me it was comparable to have a second phone or a cheap backup adsl line to put it on perspective, so it was something that, luckily, I could allow me to spend. the problem were the rest of the services, specially on the new definitive servers I was working on the background and that I only managed to release partially lost lot of money, so unfortunately, over the years things complicated at this point. the list could keep going on but I believe that that should cover at least the most relevant factors here. so I think that now you can have a better and more fair picture of what happened with the HiszY scene. as you can see there wasn't really a single reason that you can give to why the servers went offline since at some point, each point, were individually fixable on their own, so it was really more of a sum of factors that all together lead to the end of HiszY since at the end everything formed part of the project. anyways, if I would have to give some reason in particular it would be technical, after all, I kept dedicating some time and paying for the servers until some day for some unknown reason (that I would have like to know) the servers just stopped working. it could have been a malfunction, an issue or a service discontinuation, I'll never know because at that time I didn't have the time (nor the resources) to really dig it so I just had to leave it. similarly for some unknown reason all of the sudden one day I also lost the ownership of the domain hiszy-servers.tk, who knows, I obviously didn't forgot to renew it in term, now weather that renew simply failed or they just removed my ownership for whatever reason it's something I'll never know since unfortunately I didn't have the time double/triple check it as usual. so now finally taking a look back and seeing the big picture here, believe it or not, may be the forms weren't the most adequate, I definitively should have addressed it directly, but after all I believe that end up at that point it was the right thing for everybody. you know, sometimes when you just get in a place and you have done your own thing you just have to move out so new people can come in and have the things going, because in the end, that was all. I always said that this was never about me neither about the servers, it was always really about you because you were in the end the ones who really made HiszY possible. basically it made no sense that I continue with this (or that I came back), it was over, it wasn't really about me or "HiszY" anymore, the things changed, they were just different and things were never going to be like they used to. it was another thing, I wasn't going to be of any help anymore, I could only have brought more division and yet more wars, nothing really meaningful. the best option for everybody was for me to stay away from this changes and let the things go on their own and on your own and that was what happened. I also want to say here that I'm very proud to have seen that you guys finally did manage to continue with this on your own and see that somehow and may be in some other different way but you still continue to do nowadays in the present, good job guys. may be it was a bit premature, or may be not, we could really never tell for sure what would have happened, however taking a look at other places what we can tell for sure is that HiszY was simply one of the first big names of the scene to "disappear" (to change, here) at that time. either way, even the very own servers some time after they went down got discontinued by the hosting company and at that time set up a new host for me wasn't really a option, so as much they could have gone for around half a season more. thus, HiszY wouldn't have completed another season, it would have crashed and collapsed before either for some reason or another. I now believe that it was the right moment to leave for everybody. ok guys so that's all as the HiszY Head, I hope I haven't annoyed you with the lecture (if it's that by now there's still someone reading hahaha). I'm finally very very happy to have managed me to pull off this post, I really wanted to let you guys know and fully explain the issue and even if late I finally did. nothing more, just wish everybody a good chirstmas time and a happy new year and wish that everybody is doing good  take care
Posted by adminless
Dec 23, 2016 6:18 PM
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hey hello djshankey yes long time no speak, happy to see that you're still around :)) hehe I know, thank you for your understanding, nevertheless posting this stuff is something I had to do and something that somehow I even owed to the HiszY people and now, even if late, it's done :) hey yes, I saw you checked the new reworked HiszY servers I set a couple of days ago :O that's cool :D well, after spent some months reworking this in the summer of 2014 (the InstaPlusN servers) and after more than a year after that, as a admin, I actually moved from this, so I've already built other solid services and I'm pretty satisfied about how they are doing btw, however I noticed that recently the HiszY follow-up just collapsed in a somehow similar fashion as HiszY did so since it looks like I'm still a scene admin I though that it wouldn't take me much effort to do just a quick rework this time of the HiszY servers once again, so I spent a couple of days in it and we'll see how it does, may be, someone still finds it of use :D like I said on the post, things are not (and will never be) how they used to be however overall I believe it's at least a sign of respect towards my own former project to still provide some servers in case of need :) take care you too, wish everything going good, see you
Posted by adminless
Apr 24, 2017 11:07 AM
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Hi warrior :) nice to hear from you after long time , i happened to visit GT today and saw your post made in December :P . First off man i respect your reasons for closure of the server , being a staff member i remember how things got out of hand after a point , but we all players and staff members don't blame you one bit, we know that all these turbulences are a part and parcel of running one of the biggest named and famed servers back in the day and supporting huge quake community that loved the Rail only freez tag mode , not to mention the frequent d-dos attacks in those days . we even had to bring in outside help for admining the servers , but let bygones be bygones it'll be great to get back on the new servers you have set up and don't worry we'll find admins who will be willing to spec on servers also if you need any sort of help on server admining im available , for short periods ofc :D Take Care man hope to hear from you soon :) Regards DjShankey
Posted by djshankey
Apr 20, 2017 11:46 AM
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