Just going to clear one thing up, The difference between being an Initiate, and being a member... The difference in the two is actually quite small, it just means none of the admins, or other members in our group know who you are.

an Initiate and a full fledged members hold the same rights as they are apart of our group, except an initiate can be dropped at any given time without consent to the user.

For an initiate to become a full member is usually 3 to 4 weeks, Initiates hold rights to use the HF tag, as well as benefit from becoming a part of the group.

Not playing on our servers often, and not contributing, will cause removal for both Initiates and Members alike. The time frame for Initiates are more limited.

(Contribution does not mean we need your money. Just be active on the servers, and forums and that's it.)

The easiest way for you to be bumped to a member is by joining www.hongfire.com and adding me or an admin that referred you as a referral, and talking on the forums gets you instant member rights. All you have to do is give me your user id on Hongfire, and either I or another admin/mod will pm you for verification.

Writing on the GameTracker forum can also help mods, and admins know you better.

I will be setting up some ground rules for this group later, so far this is what we came down to.