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geferonPM
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My TF2 server has been badly detected
Mar 31, 2015 3:31 PM
Joined: Feb 14, 2010
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I have a tf2 server wich has been badly detected as an idle server when its a trade server, and also all of our players, are normal people, not fake clients on the servers.
Please, fix this, i want to appear in the top 100 again.
Thank you so much, Geferon
burnPM
#2
Mar 31, 2015 8:07 PM
Joined: Sep 27, 2006
Posts: 10924
When you no longer run trade maps, feel free to post in

http://www.gametracker.com/forums/forum.php?site=1&thread=75205

We are not able to assist in the meantime.
I am retired from GameTracker after 11 years and will not be responsive for support requests.

anrk_joshPM
#3
Apr 01, 2015 8:28 AM
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Posting here because admin didn't reply to the thread
http://i.imgur.com/70XCCDU.png
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burnPM
#4
Apr 01, 2015 8:30 AM
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anrk_josh wrote:
Posting here because admin didn't reply to the thread
http://i.imgur.com/70XCCDU.png

So post a question.
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anrk_joshPM
#5
Apr 01, 2015 10:25 AM
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burn wrote:
anrk_josh wrote:
Posting here because admin didn't reply to the thread
http://i.imgur.com/70XCCDU.png

So post a question.


My question is why any server with trade_maps has to be an idle server according to GT when most don't have an idle part, shouldn't GT Also be tracking if the server actually has TF_IDLE kick enabled?, There is defiantly an impact even when you put there wasn't - We didn't use any tags but we were found because of the map. Taking one look at The TF2 server tracker and i can see alot of servers that don't start with idle_ but they are "Trade N' idle" servers, They are being ranked - one even in the 300's.
Just in case of no belief here's an example.

http://i.imgur.com/YUOBfjO.png
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burnPM
#6
Apr 01, 2015 1:11 PM
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Posts: 10924
anrk_josh wrote:
My question is why any server with trade_maps has to be an idle server according to GT when most don't have an idle part, shouldn't GT Also be tracking if the server actually has TF_IDLE kick enabled?

When the trade_, idle_, and achievement_ maps were set to automatically be de-ranked years ago because it was clear the players were not actively playing the game on a vast majority of the servers. Therefore it was unfair to rank them against the normal servers. GT does not do exceptions to the rule.

anrk_josh wrote:
Taking one look at The TF2 server tracker and i can see alot of servers that don't start with idle_ but they are "Trade N' idle" servers, They are being ranked - one even in the 300's.
Just in case of no belief here's an example.

http://i.imgur.com/YUOBfjO.png

As has been done in the past, if there are idle servers that don't follow the typical name conventions, you're welcome to report them via their page. An admin can review them on an individual basis.

anrk_josh wrote:
There is defiantly an impact even when you put there wasn't - We didn't use any tags but we were found because of the map.

We have zero issue with putting an idle server back in the ranking. You simply need to request it once you no longer run the maps. We don't hold anything against you about it, so if you start those maps up again (or get deranked for some other reason), we are not going to reference the time before. We would not hold the idle map deranking against your chances in the future.

We are not really all that interested in holding it against the admin for future derankings, like you appear to be suggesting.
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geferonPM
#7
Apr 01, 2015 1:58 PM
Joined: Feb 14, 2010
Posts: 2
The thing is that you can't consider ALL trade servers as idle servers, as some of them are only for trading, as mine is which when there's someone on it I've never seen someone idling, except for myself because I'm configuring it.
So, as I said before, there are some trade maps which aren't supposed to be idle maps and so on. So please, be honest and do something about it.
ITS UNFAIR that our server is deranked by supposedly use trade maps saying that it is an idle server when it's only a trade server, also do check for the idle kicking convars in the servers and do not do that with trade servers just because the have trade maps.
Also as Josh, my friend said, there are idle servers that don't have that type of maps or just renames maps to make it impossible to derank them.
Please, solve this fast.
Thank you by your attention,
Geferon.
Last edited by: geferon Apr 01, 2015 2:33 PM
anrk_joshPM
#8
Apr 01, 2015 3:34 PM
Joined: Apr 01, 2015
Posts: 3
burn wrote:
We have zero issue with putting an idle server back in the ranking. You simply need to request it once you no longer run the maps. We don't hold anything against you about it, so if you start those maps up again (or get deranked for some other reason), we are not going to reference the time before. We would not hold the idle map deranking against your chances in the future.


Just so we can completely resolve this are you saying we have to unload the map goto a different map - apply to be re-ranked and then we can use our actual map again?
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burnPM
#9
Apr 01, 2015 6:23 PM
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To "resolve" it, when you no longer run the maps you would request the ranking to be re-enabled in the thread mentioned. If you were to re-use those maps sometime down the road, the rank would be affected again.

GT does not have any plans to alter the TF2 trade/idle/etc server procedures any time soon. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Thanks for your enthusiasm for GameTracker and have a great day.
I am retired from GameTracker after 11 years and will not be responsive for support requests.