spyder • PM |
Jun 04, 2025 7:36 AM
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areagames wrote: Are you serious? Does anyone even bother to read the ranking guidelines that are posted in multiple places on the forums/site, including the first post of this thread? Review these links. https://www.gametracker.com/forums/forum.php?site=1&thread=108517 https://www.gametracker.com/forums/forum.php?site=1&thread=133930 There are no "allowed" boosting sites or services. ANY use of boosting services is strictly prohibited. It has been this way for some time. The fact that you've straight up admitted to utilizing boosting services is the reason your server will remain de-ranked for the time being. And yes, other top servers will be reviewed in depth as well, and appropriate actions will be taken. |
spyder • PM |
Jun 05, 2025 4:40 AM
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areagames wrote: No one said you can't advertise your server. Server advertisement is one of the primary functions of this site, which is why there is a 'Server Banners' section on each server page that offers server status images. You know...for advertising. Of which, you can still do even if the server isn't listed in the rankings. Honestly, I would imagine the primary reason of running a server is to actually play the game itself and to try building a community with other players that seek the same tailored experience you offer on your server, e.g., custom maps and game modes. I honestly don't see why everyone is so eager to turn hosting a server into a popularity contest. And yes, I do realize it can be difficult to build a steady regular population for a server, and that users tend to gravitate toward servers with a higher population. But if all the top servers are filled with bots and fake clients what actual type of community are you going to have? You might as well just run a local server with bots for the same experience. If you take a look at the actual in-game/Steam CS 1.6 server lists you'll see it is just absolutely flooded with fake servers that seem to only have the goal of spreading malware or advertising garbage. How would it be any different here if we just allow a wild west of boosted servers? I already deal enough gruff trying to filter out all the actual fake servers flooding GT. Of which, all originate from the boosting sites people use. People do come here to the GT server listings as an alternative to find actual servers and players. It lies on the GT staff to filter out the fakes. There are many factors to consider when determining a server is violating the ranking rules, and I don't want to be making arbitrary decisions that may de-rank legitimate servers. Like I mentioned before, I dismissed multiple reports against your server in the past due to insufficient evidence. It was only after finding sufficient evidence that you were de-ranked. With so many CS 1.6 servers using non-official server binaries it allows for users to connect with unofficial clients that use invalid/fake SteamIDs, which helps mask fake clients in status reports. So, we can't just join a server and determine who is real or not based on SteamID without having actual rcon access to the server. There are also many ways to hide server CVARs that would help indicate if specific mods are being utilized to introduce fake clients. We do the best we can with the information that is available. Some servers may slip through the cracks, such as your server has for a long time. The bottom line. The use of boosting services with bots and fake clients, as well as mass idling, to artificially inflate the server population is not allowed for the server rankings on Gametracker.com. It has been this way for years. If your server is boosted, it'll be de-ranked. You are allowed a maximum of three bots, or idles, for advertising purposes. If there are repeated violations the offending server IP will be blacklisted from the site entirely, and ANY related accounts banned. The rules can be reviewed here: https://www.gametracker.com/forums/forum.php?site=1&thread=108517 . If anyone has questions or needs clarification, create a new thread and ask away. I've spent way to much time on this reply, and the discussion as a whole as it is. No further discussion of this topic will be conducted within this thread. I'll leave this reply intact for awhile in hopes it knocks some sense in to people. But any further replies that aren't pertaining to a rank unban request will be deleted. |
spyder • PM |
Jun 05, 2025 6:17 AM
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emiratesgaming wrote: Jumping this request ahead of the line real quick. I did find some loose association with a boosting site/service in the recent past for your server, but this no longer seems to be the case. However, I did check your server somewhat recently and there were still active clients with invalid SteamIDs, likely from using a third party binary for the server, which was a main point of contention with a past event. However, we don't have any strict restrictions on that at the moment, so there currently isn't enough sufficient evidence at the moment to actually justify a de-rank. Ranking re-enabled at the moment, but will monitor moving forward. |
chimaera500 • PM |
Jun 07, 2025 9:31 AM
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spartanc777 wrote: You are not the registered owner of the Gametracker server page. Only the registered owner may make a request to be re-included in the rankings. This is clearly stated in several places in these forums. You may apply again when you have taken ownership of the server page. Post deleted. I am a community user. I do not reply to private message requests for support. Hint: I do not accept (or reply to) personal requests for re-ranking or unbanning. You must use the forums please. Links: Forum Guidelines | Reporting abuse | Guides & FAQs | General Help |
spyder • PM |
Jun 11, 2025 3:08 AM
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claneminence wrote: My internal notes on why ranking was disabled for your server was due to 'Abnormal population activity', and that you are a repeat offender. The fact that you keep deleting your servers and re-adding them after they get de-ranked isn't helping your case. Deleting the server from the database will wipe out the previous history, which prevents me from reevaluating the server immediately. I'm not going to go in to detail at this time on what specific metrics are being used, as it would just let people know what to avoid. But there are patterns that give some indications of abnormal/fake client activity. Other reasons may be as simple as that there is a single additional user idling over the allowed limit of 3 clients. We definitely do not want to be de-ranking legitimate servers. As I believe I mentioned in an earlier post, there isn't a simple way to be sure without actual administrative access to the server, and even then it may not be 100% clear. This isn't a simple process. Mistakes can be made, which is one reason why we do these reviews. I'm not trusting user reports 100% either. Most of them don't provide any useful information that would help making a decision, and there is high chance of people making intentional false reports. And I've seen SO many cases of people submitting a re-rank request while their server is obviously still violating rules. Again, don't submit posts here unless it is explicitly for a re-rank request. They're going to be deleted without any return replies, such as this, in the future. |
chimaera500 • PM |
Jun 11, 2025 4:24 AM
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spyder wrote: This is not a discussion thread. As made clear by Spyder's last post. I am a community user. I do not reply to private message requests for support. Hint: I do not accept (or reply to) personal requests for re-ranking or unbanning. You must use the forums please. Links: Forum Guidelines | Reporting abuse | Guides & FAQs | General Help |
chimaera500 • PM |
Jun 11, 2025 6:10 AM
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claneminence wrote: One simple rule and you can't follow it. Your posts are spam. I have lost track of how many I have had to delete. You will achieve nothing by following this childish pattern of behaviour. I am a community user. I do not reply to private message requests for support. Hint: I do not accept (or reply to) personal requests for re-ranking or unbanning. You must use the forums please. Links: Forum Guidelines | Reporting abuse | Guides & FAQs | General Help
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spyder • PM |
Jun 12, 2025 5:24 AM
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e3_hosting wrote: Ranking was disabled for having too many idle users. After reviewing the server again right now there are the three allowed bots, but one additional user that has been connected for over two hours idling in spectator. Please implement AFK kicking functions to prevent idle users of this manner. |
spyder • PM |
Jun 12, 2025 5:27 AM
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darkallience3 wrote: Your server was de-ranked for having 6 idle users, which is 3 over the limit. It also appears you've used an exploit to reset the ranking status of the server. If you do this again the IP:Port will be banned. Ranking will not be reinstated at this time, purely due to the exploit. |
chimaera500 • PM |
Jun 27, 2025 9:05 AM
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hanimeksen wrote: You are not the registered owner of the Gametracker server page. Only the registered owner may make a request to be re-included in the rankings. This is clearly stated in several places in these forums. You may apply again when you have taken ownership of the server page. Post deleted. I am a community user. I do not reply to private message requests for support. Hint: I do not accept (or reply to) personal requests for re-ranking or unbanning. You must use the forums please. Links: Forum Guidelines | Reporting abuse | Guides & FAQs | General Help |