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iastrebPM
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strange ban
Jan 25, 2011 6:04 AM
Joined: Jan 18, 2010
Posts: 2
My server was in first place in the list of servers killing floor. now it's baned, why?
ip: 109.195.51.3:7707
Last edited by: burn Jan 25, 2011 10:54 AM
burnPM
#2
Jan 25, 2011 10:54 AM
Joined: Sep 27, 2006
Posts: 10924
We dont allow the advertisements of websites that contain illegal material (eg torrents).
I am retired from GameTracker after 11 years and will not be responsive for support requests.

tumtumPM
#3
Jan 25, 2011 2:22 PM
Joined: May 12, 2010
Posts: 11
our site don't have any illegal material.
do u mean links to torrents? we can remove em.
iastrebPM
#4
Jan 25, 2011 2:27 PM
Joined: Jan 18, 2010
Posts: 2
Can you unban our server please? We will remove all unwanted links.
thefirestarterPM
#5
Jan 25, 2011 5:45 PM
Joined: Jun 03, 2010
Posts: 6
They have another server: http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/109.195.51.3:7807/

Killing Floor retail is a steam game and you have a "no steam" install available for download. No special install is needed. It's a game that is automatically updated by steam, therefore no patches or special builds are needed to be posted for download. Your forum also includes a torrent link.

I don't think piracy is allowed.
Last edited by: burn Jan 25, 2011 7:26 PM
tumtumPM
#6
Jan 25, 2011 6:52 PM
Joined: May 12, 2010
Posts: 11
removed all links from forum and site. Now we don't have any links to illegal content.
thefirestarterPM
#7
Jan 25, 2011 7:29 PM
Joined: Jun 03, 2010
Posts: 6
Don't your servers run a "NO STEAM" version of the game and don't they allow users of pirated/torrented copies of the game to connect to your server? If a server runs legitimate software, Non-Steam users cannot connect to it; plain and simple. Yours allow torrented copies to work and promote piracy. I don't think piracy is allowed.

Note: The same server with a new IP was added just today - http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/89.179.72.3:7707/
Last edited by: thefirestarter Jan 25, 2011 7:36 PM
tumtumPM
#8
Jan 25, 2011 8:23 PM
Joined: May 12, 2010
Posts: 11
thefirestarter,
all mutators (Mods) we have are fully legal and under EULA of the Tripwire. And yes, our server don't run a "NO STEAM" version of the game.

from EULA:

Tripwire wrote:

KF is the product of the Mod community. Tripwire Interactive got its start as a developer because of the support Epic Games provides to the Mod community and we wholeheartedly support the Modding of KF. But we need to retain all of our ownership rights in KF and any works derived from KF. That's just the way it is. So, go make some more cool stuff. But remember that you do not gain any ownership whatsoever in any KF content nor can you use any KF content outside the scope of the rights granted here.


all torrent links we had were just to familiarize our users with this cool game in private. And they used it at their own risk.
Now, we have removed all links to illegal software.
Last edited by: tumtum Jan 25, 2011 8:33 PM
thefirestarterPM
#9
Jan 25, 2011 8:54 PM
Joined: Jun 03, 2010
Posts: 6
tumtum wrote:
thefirestarter,
all mutators (Mods) we have are fully legal and under EULA of the Tripwire. And yes, our server don't run a "NO STEAM" version of the game.

from EULA:

Tripwire wrote:

KF is the product of the Mod community. Tripwire Interactive got its start as a developer because of the support Epic Games provides to the Mod community and we wholeheartedly support the Modding of KF. But we need to retain all of our ownership rights in KF and any works derived from KF. That's just the way it is. So, go make some more cool stuff. But remember that you do not gain any ownership whatsoever in any KF content nor can you use any KF content outside the scope of the rights granted here.


all torrent links we had were just to familiarize our users with this cool game in private. And they used it at their own risk.
Now, we have removed all links to illegal software.


The UT2004 mod version of KF is free to play if you have UT2004. We are talking about the retail version of the game here, which is separate.

Of course, Mutators are free to download. They're in the official forums. I am pretty sure that's where you got these.

Show me in this thread where the non-steam mod of the game is. http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=37067

Making mods for KF is not illegal. The "NON STEAM" version of the retail game you run is ILLEGAL. That excerpt from the EULA you copy/pasted talks about mutators and mods; not bypassing copyright protections, STEAM and allowing a RETAIL game to be pirated. You cannot play on servers running legitimate software with the non-steam version. That's not a mutator or mod for the game. It's piracy.

Try posting in the official Tripwire Interactive Killing Floor Forum your logic for the non-steam version of the game. There is a reason why torrented copies cannot play on official servers.

The server owner iastreb has torrents of the game under his name. That speaks for itself.

Please visit this thread for your reference. Even the copies you buy from the store NEED steam. http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1159697

Edwin2310 wrote:
can i register retail killing floor key on steam?


Nekomancer wrote:
There is no Killing Floor without Steam, so yes.


CyberSoniX wrote:
Not only you can, you have to. I have the retail version and it needs Steam to run.


Quote by Yoshiro who is tied to Tripwire Interactive.
Yoshiro wrote:

As these users have said, the answer is yes. All copies of Killing Floor are tied to steam. KF is a steamworks title.


Your logic for allowing non-steam copies to connect to the server is flawed.
Last edited by: thefirestarter Jan 25, 2011 9:25 PM
tumtumPM
#10
Jan 26, 2011 9:21 AM
Joined: May 12, 2010
Posts: 11
all mods we made were coded by myself, not downloaded from anywhere. Except one. And repeat again, we run official game, downloaded from HLDS_Tools. All we made not disturb EULA and fully legal. I'm not gonna share our mod anywhere. And i don't disturb EULA by this choice also.
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