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bionogPM
#81
Jan 09, 2012 11:19 AM
[BE]///Bionog Assistant Clan Leader - Joined: Dec 10, 2010
Posts: 411
You wonder how 3 points could be scored with only 2 maps...
Well the teams drew on the first map. So both teams got 1 point for this. Your team won the second map, so 1 extra point for your team.

Add 1+1=2 for your team, add 1+0=1 for the Ragekings. That makes the total score 2-1.
The score doesn't mean that much, as in the total league standings you will only get 1 point for a victory, and 0 points for a loss. We don't keep track of the total points scored in all the matches.

paranoid_mindPM
#82
Jan 09, 2012 3:14 PM
[BE]///Paranoid Lt. General - Joined: Aug 06, 2010
Posts: 293
ah yes forgot about the 5-5
bionogPM
#83
Jan 11, 2012 12:59 PM
[BE]///Bionog Assistant Clan Leader - Joined: Dec 10, 2010
Posts: 411
OK, some changes to the line-ups of all teams. Unfortunately, Team 6 ceased to exist, so we will continue with the 5 remaining teams.
All the results from matches against team 6 are removed, as not all teams played against them yet. The consequence of having an uneven number of teams is that one team will not play a match each week, so watch closely when your team needs to show up.

We have removed 2 players from existing teams, because of inactivity. These have been replaced by 2 others. Good news is that every team received one extra player, and the Rage Kings even got 2 extra's.
Extra players have been added, so now we hope the matches we play will be 5 vs 5. Hope you will all show up at the next matches in big numbers again.

Next scheduled matches are:



Sunday 15th of January 2 PM EST/20:00 CET (Dutch) Team Nobody vs Rage Kings

Sunday 15th of January 1 PM EST/19:00 CET (Dutch) The Good the Bad and Us Losers vs Team Disney

The Youths of Ownage don't have a match this week



All the new team line ups and standings can be found on:
http://beuoleague.webs.com



superman01PM
#84
Jan 14, 2012 2:41 PM
[BE]///SuperM@n Assistant Clan Leader - Joined: Nov 05, 2009
Posts: 564
Make your matches guy's!!!


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mikeylolsupPM
#85
Jan 15, 2012 3:33 PM
[BE]Charlie COD UO/4 Members - Joined: Nov 07, 2009
Posts: 166
Okay, So I think we need a new rule implemented in this "Tournament".

Every member participating in a "tournament" match should be required to /record, at the very least. there is no definitive way otherwise to make sure that a clean game is being played. because for 1. There is not PB on the server, 2. Killcams are Disabled, and 3. Even though there is one SINGLE admin present he cant possibly watch every player at the same time. and yes BE is about trust and all that jazz but the server like I said isn't secure enough to the point where we would be able to assure that we were having a clean game.


This should be one of the main rules for this tournament.
bionogPM
#86
Jan 16, 2012 8:26 AM
[BE]///Bionog Assistant Clan Leader - Joined: Dec 10, 2010
Posts: 411
I don't think we need extra rules. We have excellent rules in the clan that are suited to deal with situations like these.
The rule even rotates in the messages that are shown in our regular server. The rule concerning hackers is: NEVER accuse anyone of hacking in the server, instead make a demo or contact an admin.

This is exactly what we want you all to do when you find someone acting suspicious. I agree that we should get rid of hackers asap, and if you follow this rule it is exactly what will happen. So whenever you think you spot a hacker, being a BE member or not, don't go out shouting HEY HE'S A HACKER, LETS DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! This will work in multiple ways against you.
1. If you accuse someone in the open who is innocent, and he knows about this accusation, the trust in the clan is broken and people start to dislike one another.
2. When you accuse someone in the open, he will be aware that people will spec him, and most probably he will adjust his behavior, meaning a hacker can cover up his hack in the mean time.

So again the rule, if you suspect someone of hacking, contact the admin present at the time (it is easy to do this in TS), without letting anyone in the server know. The admin is obliged to spec the suspicious guy and record him. You can always request a copy of the vid afterwards as proof.
This nice rule makes sure we don't need all the extra stuff, so please stick to that one. And if we all follow through with this, hackers are easily dealt with.
mikeylolsupPM
#87
Jan 16, 2012 9:45 AM
[BE]Charlie COD UO/4 Members - Joined: Nov 07, 2009
Posts: 166
Not really. If there was a hacker and only one admin present even if the admin was speccing him It's too easy to toggle. ( Meaning turning the cheats on and off throughout the game) as you can even bind buttons to do that.

In no way are hackers "Easily dealt with" the surest way is to make sure that everyone /records and that's it. I don't really see what all the fuss is about. IF you don't cheat then there's nothing to fear.

anyway, I'm removing myself from this tourney. Whether there be cheaters or not. If there can't even be some sort of Anti-Cheat methods in place such as recording or PB then there's no point in it.

Good Luck to the RAGKEINGS!
sierdPM
#88
Jan 16, 2012 9:51 AM
Non-member Joined: Nov 27, 2010
Posts: 257
mikeylolsup wrote:
Not really. If there was a hacker and only one admin present even if the admin was speccing him It's too easy to toggle. ( Meaning turning the cheats on and off throughout the game) as you can even bind buttons to do that.

In no way are hackers "Easily dealt with" the surest way is to make sure that everyone /records and that's it. I don't really see what all the fuss is about. IF you don't cheat then there's nothing to fear.

anyway, I'm removing myself from this tourney. Whether there be cheaters or not. If there can't even be some sort of Anti-Cheat methods in place such as recording or PB then there's no point in it.

Good Luck to the RAGKEINGS!



RAGE QUIT

just kiding
have fun, sad to see you leave too
bionogPM
#89
Jan 16, 2012 11:02 AM
[BE]///Bionog Assistant Clan Leader - Joined: Dec 10, 2010
Posts: 411
Sad to see that if things aren’t going the way you want it, you decide to leave the league. I was hoping you could give the rules we have a chance. The rule I mentioned has been there for a long time in BE, and we stick to that. There’s no way we start making extra rules when you don’t even try to work with the set of rules that we already have. You disqualify an existing rule, without showing it doesn’t work, and even broke this well known rule in game yesterday!, and on top of that you start making new ones instead? Sorry, but I don’t see the logic in that.
I would love to put punkbuster back on the server, to solve the problems. Together (with major help of –unknown) we went through all this trouble of getting pb turned off in the server during league matches. This because several people have problems playing with pb on the server. With pb turned off we can all have fun and play in this league. Ironically, you were one of the people who had problems with playing with pb on as well, so in the end we removed it for you as well…

Imagine, when we would follow your suggestion, who do you think will be watching all those 20 hours of gameplay that will be generated each week? Cause this is where we are heading, when everyone starts to accuse one another. Not to start on all the hassle to collect all the data, and force everyone to record during play, a lot of players will ‘forget’, 'lost it, 'can't find it' 'don't know how', intentionally or unintentionally, that’s a fact.
The rule we have is a very simple thing, an admin is around, you contact him and ask him to spec someone, cause you find him suspicious. He will record him for an extensive period of time, and spec him more closely the rest of the match, and even following matches, without the person knowing that he is being specced. Easy rule, and problems can be dealt with in this way, like it has been done before. Period.
When you have any comments, suggestions or more criticism in this direction, please PM me on that, instead of on the forum.
Last edited by: bionog Jan 16, 2012 11:10 AM
beasts_of_the_eastPM
#90
Jan 16, 2012 12:52 PM
[BE]Clan Rep Clan Account - Joined: Feb 18, 2010
Posts: 1037
OK, the rule stays as it was, so please don't comment on this anymore. Any comments, posted by anyone here on this matter (with whatever intention) will be deleted. Discussion closed. If you feel the need to add anything or clarify stuff please PM me.

Lets try to proceed and enjoy the league, cause that is what it's meant for. Having fun together in a tournament and do stuff together as friendly fellow clan members. If you have any issues on something in the league you'll know where to find superm@n or me.

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