sure thing....

Here's how the whole thing started...

2012/01/28 20:20:33 CHAT GLOBAL Spirit: nice warping there
2012/01/28 20:20:40 CHAT GLOBAL Aspartame: qq
2012/01/28 20:21:00 CHAT GLOBAL Spirit: ok time to school u too
2012/01/28 20:21:03 CHAT GLOBAL Aspartame: qq
2012/01/28 20:21:09 CHAT GLOBAL Spirit: well see
2012/01/28 20:21:15 CHAT GLOBAL Aspartame: qq

I make a comment that you warped...which happens to any of us from time to time on a server host game (it's a reality) then you procede to type qq after every comment I make just to get under my skin. Pure definition of TROLL right there. My comments were 1) an observation 2) kind of a challenge if you will and 3) a response to your already annoying trolling.

So it's quite clear you were in troll mode from the very beginning. I hadn't called you noob or anything and already you were spamming qq after anything I said.

Troll - typing nonsense to get under people's skin just to get a reaction out of them. Without a doubt exactly what you were doing from the get go and a reaction you got sir. So don't act all innocent.

spirithalo wrote:
Here's how the whole thing started...

2012/01/28 20:20:33 CHAT GLOBAL Spirit: nice warping there
2012/01/28 20:20:40 CHAT GLOBAL Aspartame: qq
2012/01/28 20:21:00 CHAT GLOBAL Spirit: ok time to school u too
2012/01/28 20:21:03 CHAT GLOBAL Aspartame: qq
2012/01/28 20:21:09 CHAT GLOBAL Spirit: well see
2012/01/28 20:21:15 CHAT GLOBAL Aspartame: qq

I make a comment that you warped...which happens to any of us from time to time on a server host game (it's a reality) then you procede to type qq after every comment I make just to get under my skin. Pure definition of TROLL right there. My comments were 1) an observation 2) kind of a challenge if you will and 3) a response to your already annoying trolling.

So it's quite clear you were in troll mode from the very beginning. I hadn't called you noob or anything and already you were spamming qq after anything I said.

Troll - typing nonsense to get under people's skin just to get a reaction out of them. Without a doubt exactly what you were doing from the get go and a reaction you got sir. So don't act all innocent.

Your comments were QQ. No two ways about it. Even if i was trolling you with qq, it still was nothing close to enough to justify any kind of kick. Everything you said was also in the same category.

"nice warping there" isnt a statement to inform me of a sub-par connection, its equivalent to "if you wernt warping id have kicked your ass", also, i wasnt warping iirc.

I think you will find that i said 'qq' 6 times and a comment about oceans of tears. Hardly anything compaired to you calling me a shee noob, telling me to sit, abusing me for flying a shee, calling nades sad, telling me you will school me, telling me im warping which you probably created by firing plasma at me etc...

Also, me saying qq was simply there to try and dissuade you from typing pointless emorage after every death. It didnt work. It just got you mad until you kicked me for no reason.

Also, saying that other evidence from logs is enough for a ban is ridiculous since i already served a ban for all that.

"Even if i was trolling you with qq..."

...Well finally you come close to admitting that YOU were doing something and not 100% innocent. haha.

"me saying qq was simply there to try and dissuade you from typing pointless emorage after every death"

...yeah right. hahaha. That's a first hearing that from a troll. Dissuade....hahaha. Because trolls troll to "dissuade" people from talking or responding. You're too funny.

"nice warping there" isnt a statement to inform me of a sub-par connection, its equivalent to "if you wernt warping id have kicked your ass"

...haha. So you are a game psychologist now? Saying what people truly meant when they say one thing or another...me and Gul just had this conversation last night. Saying that someone is warping is just a statement to bring it to their attention. It may be the person, the server, or even lag from the person who is seeing the warp. Who knows. It's just a statement and nothing more was meant. Ofcourse Mr. Game Psychologist here will prolly say otherwise.

"Also, saying that other evidence from logs is enough for a ban is ridiculous since i already served a ban for all that."

...Again never said other evidence from logs was why you were banned. I said I could have banned you for it but didnt. I banned you for your dumb personal insults to me on your forums posts. You can't make a professional argument without insulting me so you paid the price. And no you didnt serve a ban for the other logged things...you served a ban for running your mouth and disrespecting admins in-game. So ridiculous? I think not.

At this point your crying on these forums have almost become humorous now. Find something better to do with your time off then continuing to beat a dead horse.

Xfire still an option...have a conversation about it even with another admin present I dont care. More will be accomplished that way then going back and forth on the forums.

spirithalo wrote:
"Even if i was trolling you with qq..."

...Well finally you come close to admitting that YOU were doing something and not 100% innocent. haha.

"me saying qq was simply there to try and dissuade you from typing pointless emorage after every death"

...yeah right. hahaha. That's a first hearing that from a troll. Dissuade....hahaha. Because trolls troll to "dissuade" people from talking or responding. You're too funny.

"nice warping there" isnt a statement to inform me of a sub-par connection, its equivalent to "if you wernt warping id have kicked your ass"

...haha. So you are a game psychologist now? Saying what people truly meant when they say one thing or another...me and Gul just had this conversation last night. Saying that someone is warping is just a statement to bring it to their attention. It may be the person, the server, or even lag from the person who is seeing the warp. Who knows. It's just a statement and nothing more was meant. Ofcourse Mr. Game Psychologist here will prolly say otherwise.

"Also, saying that other evidence from logs is enough for a ban is ridiculous since i already served a ban for all that."

...Again never said other evidence from logs was why you were banned. I said I could have banned you for it but didnt. I banned you for your dumb personal insults to me on your forums posts. You can't make a professional argument without insulting me so you paid the price. And no you didnt serve a ban for the other logged things...you served a ban for running your mouth and disrespecting admins in-game. So ridiculous? I think not.

At this point your crying on these forums have almost become humorous now. Find something better to do with your time off then continuing to beat a dead horse.

Xfire still an option...have a conversation about it even with another admin present I dont care. More will be accomplished that way then going back and forth on the forums.


Way to ignore (again) the fact that you were "calling me a shee noob, telling me to sit, abusing me for flying a shee, calling nades sad, telling me you will school me, telling me im warping which you probably created by firing plasma at me etc..."
which is the whole reason i was saying qq.

Until you accept that what you were saying is probably worse than someone saying qq then im completely at a loss.

This last post of yours is amazingly hypocritical. I got kicked for saying you were crying, which after all is what qq means. And here you are laughing and claiming i am crying lol.

You are a messed up guy spirit, seemingly incapable of introspection or understanding how other people see you.

Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh just like a child. You continue to spit out your same point over and over and over again not even listening to the other person...

Let's look back at some of my other posts in this discussion...

Post #24

"Now should I have warned you to settle it down...absolutely yes. So that I apologize for. But knowing you it wouldnt have mattered because you would have argued it just like you did when you came back from the kick. But yes I should have verbally warned you to shush with the qq stuff before kicking you."

Post #26

"Using someone else's attitude or words as an excuse to back up your own misbehavior will never cut it. You own up to your stuff and let others own up to theirs. Was I a bit harsh to you as well...absolutely. I will try better to tone it down. But also your "qq" garbage wasn't helping the situation because usually that makes people more upset and more likely to respond. In this instance we were feeding off of one another. I crossed the line...you crossed the line."

I have owned up to the situation way more than you have sir. So did I ignore anything? NO! You just can't read and follow an argument very well.

I am saying you started the whole qq thing before anything like noob, sit, sheewhore, etc was said so you were instigating the engagment by trolling. Your argument is that your qq'ing was in response to me saying all those things and that sir is a flat out lie. You started it from the very beginning so your argument is invalid there. Take some responsibility for your own damn actions. So no you are not the one at a loss...that would be me for your complete failure to acknowledge any part you have in any encounter with other players.

Do you acknowledge you were trolling and started from the very beginning before I even said much to you? Nope. You say "Even if i was trolling you with qq..." which is hardly an acknowledgement.

Do you acknowledge that you were perhaps a little over the top for saying Spirit worst admin ever garbage and even worst than slim and yg just for muting you (this was from your first ban). Nope.

Do you acknowledge that you were over the top and making a forum post with the sole intention of blasting my character and being negative towards me and perhaps you should have stuck to the facts of the situation and not made things so personal? Nope.

Do you acknowledge that maybe you go a little overboard at times in-game like you did with the SoC guys completeing belittling them and insulting them because of their profession of belief in God? Nope.

So you wanna talk about hypocritical....please. Take a good long look at your own actions and start to take some responsibility for them. I have already done that but I guess you missed both of those posts. So was I ignoring (again) any of what you claim. Nope. You are just a messed up guy Miasma, seemingly incapable of introspection or understanding how other people see you.

spirithalo wrote:
Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh just like a child. You continue to spit out your same point over and over and over again not even listening to the other person...

Let's look back at some of my other posts in this discussion...

Post #24

"Now should I have warned you to settle it down...absolutely yes. So that I apologize for. But knowing you it wouldnt have mattered because you would have argued it just like you did when you came back from the kick. But yes I should have verbally warned you to shush with the qq stuff before kicking you."

Post #26

"Using someone else's attitude or words as an excuse to back up your own misbehavior will never cut it. You own up to your stuff and let others own up to theirs. Was I a bit harsh to you as well...absolutely. I will try better to tone it down. But also your "qq" garbage wasn't helping the situation because usually that makes people more upset and more likely to respond. In this instance we were feeding off of one another. I crossed the line...you crossed the line."

I have owned up to the situation way more than you have sir. So did I ignore anything? NO! You just can't read and follow an argument very well.

I am saying you started the whole qq thing before anything like noob, sit, sheewhore, etc was said so you were instigating the engagment by trolling. Your argument is that your qq'ing was in response to me saying all those things and that sir is a flat out lie. You started it from the very beginning so your argument is invalid there. Take some responsibility for your own damn actions. So no you are not the one at a loss...that would be me for your complete failure to acknowledge any part you have in any encounter with other players.

Do you acknowledge you were trolling and started from the very beginning before I even said much to you? Nope. You say "Even if i was trolling you with qq..." which is hardly an acknowledgement.

Do you acknowledge that you were perhaps a little over the top for saying Spirit worst admin ever garbage and even worst than slim and yg just for muting you (this was from your first ban). Nope.

Do you acknowledge that you were over the top and making a forum post with the sole intention of blasting my character and being negative towards me and perhaps you should have stuck to the facts of the situation and not made things so personal? Nope.

Do you acknowledge that maybe you go a little overboard at times in-game like you did with the SoC guys completeing belittling them and insulting them because of their profession of belief in God? Nope.

So you wanna talk about hypocritical....please. Take a good long look at your own actions and start to take some responsibility for them. I have already done that but I guess you missed both of those posts. So was I ignoring (again) any of what you claim. Nope. You are just a messed up guy Miasma, seemingly incapable of introspection or understanding how other people see you.

Saying qq isnt misbehaviour on any other server ive ever played on.
Using your attitude to justify me saying qq is perfectly legitimate, since if you didnt have the crybaby attitude i wouldnt have said qq lol.

Ive admitted that i siad qq, not sure why that would be a problem though. On the other hand, if you are going to kick people for saying qq maybe you want to first explain why you call people sad, fail, tell them to sit, tell them you will school them, call them noobs etc.

Until you do and explain why all that is ok while me saying qq is worth of a kick i can only think you have cognitive issues.

luvs2sp00j wrote:
Saying qq isnt misbehaviour on any other server ive ever played on.

That's the whole point I'm trying to make so please get that through your thick skull. I'm telling you spamming qq to players will not be tolerated in Jenn's. I don't give a crap about other servers or what you think. I'm telling you in our server if a player is spamming qq or anything else to another player to get under their skin then it is a problem and it will be dealt with. We are the admins NOT YOU. What we say goes...not what YOU think. You can disagree with it all you want but if I see you doing it I will deal with it. I'm telling you it is a rule break in our server if you are being annoying with it so there. Another one's actions is never a perfectly legitimate reason to misbehave yourself. What failed logic is that?

AGAIN I already said I was a bit harsh and would settle it down and AGAIN you have not taken responsibility for your words and actions. You think you can bad mouth me and call me all sorts of names like worst admin ever, worst than slim, a joke, a liar, an egomaniac, lunatic, etc....please explain how that is ok. It isn't...you should show more class than that. You need to learn how to present an argument without personally bashing the opponent. It's just low and unprofessional. Until you've acknowledged those things we are done and this conversation is over.

So in closing...

1) I have said I should have verbally warned you more before kicking you and apologized. Next time I will make it quite clear to you verbally when you are crossing a line.

2) I have said I was a bit too harsh with my own attitude and words in game, but also admitted your spamming qq (to get under my skin) was also a reason. It's not an excuse, but it shows you when you troll people to get them to respond you might not always like the response. We admins have already been discussing our attitudes and in-game speech and have all agreed to tone it down and try not to be so wrapped up in the competitive side of the game. Because that's usually where it stems from. So you should see less of it from any of us. But the flip side is we also expect our guests (players) to play nicely too.

3) I have asked you point blank and you've never acknowledged it...you think it was ok to say in game spirit worst admin ever and that I am worst than YG and Slim just because I muted you for a few minutes so Gul and I could speak to another player without you chiming in??? I even warned you several times before the mute to please stop chiming in and you kept going. That was extremely rude and absolutely trolling. I want you to acknowledge this incident and see why you think that was ok???? Also, why you think it's ok to completely bash me in the public forums. You have an issue with me try talking to me 1v1 about it. You have an issue you need to bring up to the other admins make a post like you did with the video and present the facts without bashing anyone. Leave your own personal opinions and attitude out of it. Notice I left your post up with the video and you explaining the incident. I removed your posts where you wanted to get personal and bash me. That is your lesson to learn here.

So let's hear you take some responsibility for these incidents like I have done.

spirithalo wrote:
So in closing...

1) I have said I should have verbally warned you more before kicking you and apologized. Next time I will make it quite clear to you verbally when you are crossing a line.

2) I have said I was a bit too harsh with my own attitude and words in game, but also admitted your spamming qq (to get under my skin) was also a reason. It's not an excuse, but it shows you when you troll people to get them to respond you might not always like the response. We admins have already been discussing our attitudes and in-game speech and have all agreed to tone it down and try not to be so wrapped up in the competitive side of the game. Because that's usually where it stems from. So you should see less of it from any of us. But the flip side is we also expect our guests (players) to play nicely too.

3) I have asked you point blank and you've never acknowledged it...you think it was ok to say in game spirit worst admin ever and that I am worst than YG and Slim just because I muted you for a few minutes so Gul and I could speak to another player without you chiming in??? I even warned you several times before the mute to please stop chiming in and you kept going. That was extremely rude and absolutely trolling. I want you to acknowledge this incident and see why you think that was ok???? Also, why you think it's ok to completely bash me in the public forums. You have an issue with me try talking to me 1v1 about it. You have an issue you need to bring up to the other admins make a post like you did with the video and present the facts without bashing anyone. Leave your own personal opinions and attitude out of it. Notice I left your post up with the video and you explaining the incident. I removed your posts where you wanted to get personal and bash me. That is your lesson to learn here.

So let's hear you take some responsibility for these incidents like I have done.

So spamming qq is bad (even if you only said it 6 times), but every time you die calling someone a shee newb, complaining about banshees in general, saying nades are sad, telling people to sit, telling people you will school them, telling people they lag over and over is all a'ok!

Good to know, didnt see those rules anywhere and doesnt make a lick of sense to me but whatever (lol)

Complete joke. Well see if you can hold to your promise of not crying after every death

As far as me being nice, do you think i wouldve been saying qq if you wernt qq'ing all over the place? Me being nice isnt a problem, expecting me to be nice when you abuse your admin to get the last laugh is very much a problem.